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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 26, 2010 3:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

"Never could reach
It just slips away but I try."

Is a damn good description , as I listened to whole stretches of Crazy Fingers during the titled time frame . I was gonna find one to put in the mix to flavor all those '76 recs below . But I couldn't find one to satisfy . A blown verse(s) , heavy Fozzie Bear Jerry vocals , no heart , only AUD .( In the late '80's , non released material ? )

O.K. , let's get this out of the way . 1976 was the year for CR . Jerry's voice was still sweet . CR wasn't a barn burner so Donna contributed most of the time ( kinda JGBish for her ). Writing about JGB makes me think about how much this song reminds me of Reflections in pace and feel .

Until 1985 there were 19 performances of CR .( More than half have been recommended in the thread below ) .Between 1985 - 1995 there were 125 performances . I am hoping to find some gems during the time when this song was played the most . I went through 30ish good guesses on my part without any luck . Come on lovers of the '80's and '90's , throw a rec into the late CR hat . Much obliged .

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Poster: jimmy cliff Date: Nov 26, 2010 4:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

3/24/93

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 27, 2010 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

I have listened to many CF the last three days . Too much is too much ( for now ). Thanks for all the recs everybody . I went through most of the 80's and '95 (?).
This is not an easy song for JG to sing . I wonder why he brought it back so much post '85 . Musically they almost always hit it . The worst version ( and I listened to many C- of worse versions ) is 4/4/85 . I have no idea what the drummers are doing . If it's to f up a song they succeeded .
Here is a solid B , and two barely holding a B- ,

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-10-10.sbd.miller.110628.flac24
strat rec., might be the best of what I listened to

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1985-07-02.fob.senn421.colyard.92906.sbeok.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1986-04-19.sbd.miller.34419.flac16

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Nov 26, 2010 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

Thanks for this thread; I hope it turns out like the 76 CF thread.....
Now for MveryHOs:
Ones that I stand out in my memories out of those that I saw:
palindromic 7-8-87
front row 10.23.89
my flawed first 10.8.83
Jer's come-backs & dinner w/Weir & Barlow 12.16.86
3rd show I saw at the Fab Furry Fox 10.29.85
Close Encounters of the Indy Kind 7-15-89
in the rubber room that was the Zenith 10.27.90
& one that was good for its time7-16-94

(It turns out that these were all the CFs that I saw....& all but the 94 stood out as memorable before consulting setlists.net.)

My early taped fav was 7.29.82, & each of the Frost performances seem to be worthwhile as I recall.

As Jerry's diabetic peripheral neuropathy caught hold of his fingers in the '90s, the tune lost its zing to me.

[BTW, little know but pretty definite medical research has show that vitamin B-1, aka thiamin(e) (~?300mg/day), and/or its more-effective derivative benfotiamine can stop & even reverse diabetic (hyperglycemic) nerve damage to the eyes, kidneys & periphery within, AS A BEST GUESS ~?18-24 months. Check out PUBMED & WIKIPEDIA; share the info with your MD if you're diabetic. There is no change seem in the progression of diabetes, only in the damage caused by elevated blood sugar. I'm not an MD, but I'm a scientist with a PhD: & I say this hoping to help someone reading this post (...wish it could of helped Jerry & several of my deceased family members).] God Bless

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 26, 2010 7:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

>Jerry's diabetic peripheral neuropathy caught hold of his fingers in the '90s,

Really? Was that diagnosed, or an educated guess? Sheds an interesting light on the 90s if true.

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Nov 26, 2010 9:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Less & less Crazy Fingers -> 1995

His diabetes was well-known; the peripheral neuropathy a confirmed dx? Well, good question, & I don't recall where I first heard it, but it was in the early-mid 1990s.
Anybody else have any recollections?

BTW, I had a nurse friend who was working at Marin Gen when they brought Jer in in 7/1986. Long story made short: his blood sugar upon admission was the highest the Dr had seen & had the patient live (right Sam?)...

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Nov 26, 2010 10:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Less & less Crazy Fingers -> 1995

Of course I knew about the diabetes; am wondering about the impact on his playing, if he did suffer from nerve damage. I hadn't heard that, but it stands to reason.

Also, I knew he had to relearn to play after the coma, and I'm not knowledgeable enough to spot the difference afterwards, but I've wondered if those who are knowledgeable can see any changes. Then if nerve damage set in later ... I'd thought of the diabetes mainly in relation to tiredness, and then of course the drug issues compounding everything, but hadn't though of a physical impact on playing ability. Which would have to have been depressing for him (and everyone else). And we can guess how he'd deal with it ...

Highest ever blood sugar? Whoa. Tough guy, apparently. Too bad he wasn't tough enough to get healthy ... (sigh).

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2010-11-27 06:21:58

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Nov 26, 2010 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

I echo some in that there's not a live version that matches that certain feel and syncopation of the blues for allah track...that being said, there are some live versions of meri...outside of 76 to meet your criteria, I would go to 04-08-1985, 07-08-1987, 08-18-1989, 03-17-1994, 06-22-1993, 12-18-1994 as some versions of note

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 26, 2010 7:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

strat., no CR on 4/8/85 or 3/17/94 . I agree with you that the studio take was among the best ever ( how rare is that ).

Very good one on ,

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1993-06-22.sbd.miller.108983.flac16

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Nov 26, 2010 7:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

meant 03-17-1993...trying to remember the 85 one, it was in first set...great version

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Nov 26, 2010 7:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

Saratoga ? , http://www.archive.org/details/gd85-06-27.sbd.miller.27863.sbeok.flacf

I am amazed how few CR can make it all the way through , post '82 . Is is a hard song to play and/or sing ?

edit - in the above posts CR means CF . Happens .



This post was modified by micah6vs8 on 2010-11-27 03:33:57

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Nov 26, 2010 7:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

that sounds like it...10-10-1982 might be the best 1982 version, worth checking out

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Poster: hasher Date: Nov 26, 2010 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

"I am amazed how few CR can make it all the way through , post '82 . Is is a hard song to play and/or sing ?"

Yes, I believe this to be true. Unlike many other GD songs the chords and changes are not simple ones. I don't think this applies to the singing of the song but some of the chords are tricky and tough to put in the right place if you havent been practicing or playing them frequently. Since I learned the song some years ago, I nearly always mess it up or forget a chord change until I play it through a few times(usually around the 'Gone are the broken eyes we saw though in dreams' part). Definetly not as easy as other GD songs.

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Poster: elkdog Date: Nov 28, 2010 7:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

Playin>Crazy Fingers opener, damn near perfect.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1982-09-21.mtx.seamons.97705.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: barongsong Date: Nov 27, 2010 10:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Crazy Fingers 1982 - 1995

I like this one.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-06-23.sbd.ladner.28690.sbeok.shnf
and this one
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1989-06-19.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.83673.sbeok.flac16

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